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[user=Русский_Саша] said[quote]It`s everything 12-05-2003 17:40 к комментариям - к полной версии - понравилось!


Русский_Саша said

It`s everything truth what you wrote. But you didn`t tell us about most important being the opposite side of this coin. You didn`t tell in this assay what is keeping you at this way too. Sure it's same for everybody.

И почему Вы пишете по-английски, зная русский язык? Не для того ли чтобы большая часть людей Вас не поняли?



i fugured that I`m here to be entertained and have fun. And it`s up to me to find and enjoy it. So whatever I deem ludicrous and stupid, I pass it emotionlessly. In case of a brilliant idea, funny writing, eye-grabbing photo, I sponge it up.

I changed my attitude. It doesn't make sense to get holed up and see the world pass by. It's up to me to enjoy it.

if you don't like something, there are three ways of dealing with that. First being to shut it off. Second would be to shut yourself up and endure, and the third is to change the attitude towards that, and don't get all worked up about nothing.

Yeah, and for dessert, about English.

There are two simple reasons. First, although I can read and understand Russian, my verbal Russian is not as good as my English. I can say things in English better than in Russian. So there.

As for those who don't understand. I'm not a politician, so I'm not that much interested in everybody getting what I'm talking about. If someone really wants to know, I suppose I can work it out in Russian. Average crowd is ignorant to most of what I'm saying anyway, don't mind the language.
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if you don't like something, there are three ways of dealing with that. First being to shut it off. Second would be to shut yourself up and endure, and the third is to change the attitude towards that, and don't get all worked up about nothing.
Yeah, and for dessert, about English.
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I decided to follow one of your recipes (may be more).

I'm sorry for question about Russian. I was really relaxed without of any nationalism in the USA last years and little bit forgot that simple questions could make opposite not pleasant effect. Shortly! When I've read your Diary with care I've understood fault of my question.
I was going to tell you only with this question that in Russian you could attract significantly more attention to your opinion at the site and that's it.

When I was talking to you that all of your еxprеssiоns are truth I didn't finish. Hopefully you would be agreeing that every truth is not complete, and some times additional filling of the "truth" jar could invert final effect and attitude to what it is the final picture. I think that truth is what are we seeing objectively in frames of our limited vision. It is not yet just whole subject.

It seams to me, I understand what do you mean writing so aggressively about Li.Ru. community. When I entered the MSN L. A. Chat room before my arrival in Los Angeles I thought I'm in hell. But believe me real Los Angeles does not create this attitude in reality. There is Russian sentence: "Every Joke includes part of Joke". Personally I do not think at least that Li.Ru is worse than any other similar site. May be it does not meet your expectations only (mine too). Some times I should call it as hell too, but if you are Orpheus looking for your Eurydice you have to be patient and ready to follow in Hell. It's even if your Eurydice is some "truth" but not just woman.

If you really expect that most of Russians in Russia and just at this site really hate Americans, it is not truth, I'm sure. They are absolutely same like you. All of discussions do not reflect objectively the situation. I should be ready to argue with you about that. I have my personal statistics for this topic. So you could ensure through out this factor and put down your arm prepared.

Talking objectively about your opportunities at this site, I think that in English you have chances to get some attention. Did you visit the Diary of eddieusa2? People looking for fun like you but in native language environment will not stop at your pages you understand. Otherwise in Russia more people know and are strengthened to learn English than in USA towards Russian. So you have chances for all of you expected: " i fugured that I`m here to be entertained and have fun. And it`s up to me to find and enjoy it. So whatever I deem ludicrous and stupid, I pass it emotionlessly. In case of a brilliant idea, funny writing, eye-grabbing photo, I sponge it up."
Time by time you will have gotten it, I think.

Finally I could say that you have got several interested persons here: several fine ladies and me. Other is up to you. Let me to return your fine recipe back (see quotes above) to you.

Always glad to receive your messages!
Alpine 13-05-2003-16:33 удалить

I decided to follow one of your recipes (may be more).

Flattering :)


I'm sorry for question about Russian.

Nah, no need to sorry.. Ain't do no harm :)

When I've read your Diary with care I've understood fault of my question.

I don't see anything wrong with it.

I was going to tell you only with this question that in Russian you could attract significantly more attention to your opinion at the site and that's it.

I suppose you're rigth on this one. However I don't feel like writing in Russian; second, as I said it's easier for me to get it down in English. Third, most of the jokes I post I heard in English, and I don't want to change them.
Fourth, some people here learn English, some would like to learn English and by giving them some quality jokes and essays I'm helping them to nail it down.

Hopefully you would be agreeing that every truth is not complete, and some times additional filling of the "truth" jar could invert final effect and attitude to what it is the final picture.


Gee.. mind-bending concept :)

Personally I do not think at least that Li.Ru is worse than any other similar site. May be it does not meet your expectations only (mine too).


Paraphrasing a well-known quote [by JFK], I'd say
"It is not what Li.ru can do for you, it is what you can make of li.ru" :)

If it doesn't meet one's expectations, change expectations, Li.ru can be a curse or a virtue, depending on what you make out of it.

Some times I should call it as hell too,

I actually believe that it's the Limbo :) Neither here not there, sort of a cleansing place :)

If you really expect that most of Russians in Russia and just at this site really hate Americans,

I don't expect that. and I don't think so. There are just a few of those. What I find in abundance is the mediocrity. it's everywhere. But hey, it's up to us not to notice it, right?

I should be ready to argue with you about that. I have my personal statistics for this topic.

Save your breath :) You're preaching the choir :)


Talking objectively about your opportunities at this site, I think that in English you have chances to get some attention.

What exactly are my opportunities? Hang on a sec... you're just saying that to get mroe atention I should write in Russian?

Did you visit the Diary of eddieusa2?

I did.

People looking for fun like you but in native language environment will not stop at your pages you understand.

So whose fault is that? Not mine, I think?

Time by time you will have gotten it, I think.

You're talking puzzles. Get what?

Finally I could say that you have got several interested persons here: several fine ladies and me.

I have, indeed. :)

Always glad to receive your messages!

Same here.
grazygirl 14-05-2003-06:25 удалить
рада тебя видеть!!! снова! Привет!!!
а ты серьезно насчет русского???
рада тебя видеть!!! снова! Привет!!!
а ты серьезно насчет русского???

Что серьезно?

Flattering :)

I do not see subject for any "Flattering" in my life, especially dealing with you. I'm looking for friends here. Dealing with your "excellent" English, Li_Ru is not best place for studies of English. It's even with you, sorry.

Li_Ru exists for other things I guess.
Actually "here I am" just to talk Russian, being little bit tied of daily English.

Good Luck! I prefer hospitable reception. I'll rather leave you alone in your wishful thinking right now.

If something is wrong tell me I'll delete my comments from your space on your request. Hopefully you know that you can delete only your comments even if they are in your Diary.
Alpine 14-05-2003-19:48 удалить

I do not see subject for any "Flattering" in my life, especially dealing with you.


I sense some tension here.. I didn't mean to say anything wrong... I was trying to explain myself... I don't resent you or anybody else in anyway... I'm happy to talk to anybody.

I think you mistook my statements...

I'm looking for friends here.

I believe it's a wrong place for that. :)

Dealing with your "excellent" English, Li_Ru is not best place for studies of English. It's even with you, sorry.

Fine.. I think it's again what you make of it. If you grudge and say it's not the best way, well. so be it. But if you say "Hey, I have a question for you....", then you [and probably I] will learn something. Wouldn't it be great!

It's all abot the approach and the attitude you choose to follow.... Easy-going and carefree or resentment and getting upset too quickly...

Li_Ru exists for other things I guess.
Like what?
Li.ru simply exists. What for is up to you :) Take a proactive approach.

Actually "here I am" just to talk Russian, being little bit tied of daily English.

Great! this is your choice and everybody respects it. Well at least I do. My goal on the other hand is not to find friends and talk Russian here (although I suppose I could).. it's to take my mind off my work and find something interesting, no matter what language it's written in.

Good Luck!

Thanks, you too!

I prefer hospitable reception.

We all do, don't we. But I dont' see how I failed to provide you with one.

I'll rather leave you alone in your wishful thinking right now

Would you mind to elaborate on what you mean by "whishful thinking".

If something is wrong tell me I'll delete my comments from your space on your request.

No need. I like them.

Hopefully you know that you can delete only your comments even if they are in your Diary

I do know that, but I'd like to keep all the comments, bad and good :)
Alpine 14-05-2003-19:50 удалить
рада тебя видеть!!! снова! Привет!!!
а ты серьезно насчет русского???

In what respect?

I sense some tension here. I didn't mean to say anything wrong... I was trying to explain myself... I don't resent you or anybody else in anyway... I'm happy to talk to anybody.
I think you mistook my statements...


Now I've reminded one my story. I've sent funny picture to Director of our Human Resource Department.


I'm in the Molecular Biology Lab of big company. He didn't replay anything. I asked:
Did you receive it? Pat! Did you like it?
He just has accepted into the position of secretary very fine 18-19 years old girl. And he told me:
You know it has two ways (this picture): one is clear but other... How is it possible to leave sample of DNA with secretary?
You know, I didn't start to explain that every day I process a lot of DNA samples and it doesn't mean that I make sex with every donor. Simply I've known that our Human Resource Department is obviously not Humor Resource Department.



Hopefully you will not see any Flattering in the fact that I'm still here at your territory.


I'm sure that it's most naive idea - to change somebody or something in society corresponding with our wishes. We have to accept the World as it is or leave it. Only our patience and good attitude to people can change something towards us. That's my point.

You know I had good boss, he told that he must work with available scientists not complaining that all of them are stupid.
Actually are you sure that you would select just your lovely girl if you had chance to meet much more girls in your life? Do you understand what I mean? Some times we pass each other only because we didn't take a look.

I suppose that I could be wrong in 50% (best case).

Do you?
Alpine 15-05-2003-16:38 удалить
Hopefully you will not see any Flattering in the fact that I'm still here at your territory.

Not if you don't want me to :)

I`m sure that it's most naive idea - to change somebody or something in society corresponding with our wishes. We have to accept the World as it is or leave it.

Completely, utterly and absolutely disagree. Only an individual is capable of changing something. Another thing that it might take a number of such individuals to push a major change, but small changes in one's own life are not only possible, they are your responsibility.

In each societal advance you can identify a single individual who came up with an idea, made it know among peers and pushed for the change.

If you accept the world as it is, you accept other's wishes and interests imposed on you regardless of whether you like it or not.

Only our patience and good attitude to people can change something towards us.

Patience and attitude are the virtues, no doubt about that. But they aren`t the only qualities one needs. You need preseverance, pragmatism, common sense, and bunch of others...

You know I had good boss, he told that he must work with available scientists not complaining that all of them are stupid.

I`d dissent. I wouldn`t like to work with stupid scientists, it would be waste of resources, my and their time.

Actually are you sure that you would select just your lovely girl if you had chance to meet much more girls in your life?

Sure.

Sometimes we pass each other only because we didn't take a look.

Could be so.. That`s where you need to change and start taking looks :)

Ok! I gona change you: your egoism to altruism, your opinion that you are always right.
What are you gona do? Fight again?

You have a lot of weaknesses in your logic. Do not you feel it?
Alpine 15-05-2003-21:21 удалить
Ok! I gona change you: your egoism to altruism,

You're not the first to try :)


your opinion that you are always right.

For the record, I'm not always right :)

You have a lot of weaknesses in your logic. Do not you feel it?

I don't. But you can try to show them to me.
Actualized 16-05-2003-02:27 удалить
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)
Alpine 16-05-2003-02:46 удалить
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)

У вас есть что нибудь по-существу? :)
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)

Ты чо-то совсем с лица спала, аж картинка к имени не грузится. Не переживай за нас. Это мы так любезничаем, Мы не деремся и не ругаемся. Стиль у нас такой получается. Вот!
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)

У вас есть что нибудь по-существу? :)

Не-е! Ты ее по существу не бей, не надо! Она - симпатичная женщина.

Это ты для меня прибереги: когда ... и по существу!

You're not the first to try :)

No! I'm just kidding! I stopped it understood that it's wasting of time.

For the record, I'm not always right :)

Was it your hidden secret?
Thank you for trust.

I don't. But you can try to show them to me.

I quit this profession just graduated the Univ. I do not like teaching. Life is better teacher.

Ok! I propose to stop arguing. It will have no any tail.

I think it should be better to start from "0".
*******************************
Hellow!
How is it going?
What is the interesting device in your picture?
You called it "bran-new girl".
Alpine 16-05-2003-18:04 удалить
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)

Ты чо-то совсем с лица спала, аж картинка к имени не грузится. Не переживай за нас. Это мы так любезничаем, Мы не деремся и не ругаемся. Стиль у нас такой получается. Вот!

Ну блин придётся по-русски изьясниться что бы не было никаких недосказов

Я вообще-то ни с кем не спорил и ничего не доказывал.. и хотел всё более дружелюбно обьяснить.. Но видать мои англииский ещё не так хорош :)
Alpine 16-05-2003-18:05 удалить
Hellow!
How is it going?
What is the interesting device in your picture?
You called it "bran-new girl".

It's a 3 TEsla magnet for MRI..
Actualized 16-05-2003-18:11 удалить
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)

Ты чо-то совсем с лица спала, аж картинка к имени не грузится. Не переживай за нас. Это мы так любезничаем, Мы не деремся и не ругаемся. Стиль у нас такой получается. Вот!

Ну блин придётся по-русски изьясниться что бы не было никаких недосказов

Я вообще-то ни с кем не спорил и ничего не доказывал.. и хотел всё более дружелюбно обьяснить.. Но видать мои англииский ещё не так хорош :)


совсем плохенек:)
это заявление по существу?:)

p.s. физик обещал результаты вчера - не шлет гад:(
Actualized 16-05-2003-18:14 удалить
сколько шуму - а драки нет?:)

Ты чо-то совсем с лица спала, аж картинка к имени не грузится. Не переживай за нас. Это мы так любезничаем, Мы не деремся и не ругаемся. Стиль у нас такой получается. Вот!


картинка волшебная - не всем открывается;)
Alpine 16-05-2003-19:10 удалить
совсем плохенек:)


Ну раз не понимают, значит совсем хреновый

это заявление по существу?:)

в первом приближении, сойдёт :)

п.с. физик обещал результаты вчера - не шлет гад:(


Bce они такие.., только избранные пхисики (I mean physicists :)) могут прочувствать женскую скорбь :)


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