Laa-Laa, pretty much equivalent. I just saw him when he was actully signing my Mutter digi and he's pretty ugly, a bit squashy like he had too much alcohol yesterday plus he's really fat now, he has a big belly that's hanging off over his pants... it sucks, but it's true. it's really easy to check out person when the so-called 'industrial/rock star' is in front of you like half a meter away...