"Think for yourself, question authority" Many know this quote from the beginning of Third Eye on Tools forth album Salival and its the basis this piece is written on. If you think things are black or white and nothing else or that Tool are just some band then you might as well stop reading now, this isn’t for you. For those still here I hope you find this theory at the least interesting, hopefully more.

Most know Maynard James Keenan is a stage name for James Hubert Keenan but it is not just a cosmetic name change. It is because Maynard is an act, a persona, like Ziggy Stardust was for David Bowie. Maynard’s role is to become a martyr figure to the fans until they realise this fact, like a puzzle. Eulogy is Maynard’s Eulogy, h. stands for Hubert, his real middle name. jimmy is his real first name but isn’t a capital because to Tool fans this is his middle name. Prison Sex’s line "Release in sodomy" is actually "Release inside of me" the fans are his "Lamb and Martyr" In effect the fans need to understand and destroy the Maynard persona because he is James and most the songs are about the struggle between Maynard and James over control of the one person (Pushit, Third Eye) No wonder people say he's schizophrenic.

All of the symbolism I’ve found will be gone into in much more detail in later posts, there is too much to post here all at once but I’ll give a couple more things I’ve noticed. Here is my take on the end lyrics in Reflection. What has to be remembered is that all Tools work can be interrupted in many ways, what I’m saying is that there is one common thread which links it all.

"So crucify the ego before its far too late" - The ego being the Maynard persona.
"Leave behind this place so negative, void and cynical" - The platform Tool currently hold.
"When you come to find, that we are all one mind" - That Maynard is a "Reflection" of the four
members.
"Capable of all this, imagine it all conceivable" - That what I’m trying to say is conceivable?
"Let the light touch you and the words spill through" - The light being Tools visual work and the words being there music.
"Bringing out our hope and reason" - Tools hope for mankind and there reason for why they’ve done this.

And then you have Schism "I know the pieces fit" and Disposition’s "Mention this to me and watch the weather change" Ticks and Leeches is for all the people who have questioned Tools intentions while they built this puzzle. "Hope this is what you wanted, hope this is what you had in mind, cause this is what your getting"

I don’t know how many of you know about the true track order for Lateralus but here it is. It revolves round the number 13. Which is the track number of the garbled message Faaid de Oiadd

13
1,12 =13
2,11 =13
3,10 =13
4,9 =13
5,8 =13
6,7 =13

It runs on two spirals revolving around track 13, they are -

6,7,5,8,4,9 then 12,1,11,2,10,3 making the full order, 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,12,1,11,2,10,3.

Listen to the timing of the last bit of guitar in Parabola going into Schism and the drums coming out of Schism going into Ticks and Leeches and you should be able to hear why this order is correct.

There's so much more but I just want to see peoples reactions to this first before I waste my time trying to explain further.

an interesting interpretation I found on the net....Im not sure If I agree with all the stuff about maynard
has anyone listened to it in that track order
If i could quantify *my* interpretation with words... heh
heres more
The Tool Enigma.

"So crucify the ego before its far too late" - The ego being the Maynard persona.
"Leave behind this place so negative, void and cynical" - The platform Tool currently hold.
"When you come to find, that we are all one mind" - That Maynard is a "Reflection" of the four
members.
"Capable of all this, imagine it all conceivable" - That what I’m trying to say is conceivable?
"Let the light touch you and the words spill through" - The light being Tools visual work and the words being there music.
"Bringing out our hope and reason" - Tools hope for mankind and there reason for why they’ve done this.

Hope life finds every one well

Tool gives out enough clues to dig it all up, but they tend to be the things that are paid the least attention to by most, and how appropriate... I don't agree with the just proposed interpretation whatsoever, although it took meritous thought.
opps wrong one
Yeah he is known as Maynard for A.P.C, Deftones, R.A.T.M e.t.c.... but thats the point. Everything Maynard has done has relevance to what I'm saying and it will be gone into in more detail later. 3 Libra's is about Tool fans "Threw you the obvious" is the word Tool with all the fans wearing the t-shirts "Flew with it on your back" and he ends that song repeating "You don't see me" and Judith is saying fuck Maynard, the fans God, in the f.a.q on A.P.C's website Maynard is asked why he hates God so much and he replies "Its not a fuck you to God, Just to your God" because lets face it many people see him in that way.

Fifth

Biggest clue: The appearance of the Qabalistic Tree of Life on the Salival box set, who in the fuck is going to devote enough time out of their lives to learn about the Qabalah? Generally no one, especially not because some rock band gave them the hint. It took me a little while to get with it, but it's definately making "pieces fit."
although the LSD + AENIMA experience is what exposed the already existing inclination...
Heres my take on how the whole "Lachrymologhy" thing fits in.

Lachrymologhy is a philosophy of a release of pain through crying which is what they have been doing in there music as stated before "Crying" out to the fans to release James from Maynard. Danny once said Tool were named Tool to understand Lachrymologhy. In my research I have found so much evidence in these alledged "Red Herrings" because they are far from it, clues have been left everywhere.

I doubt Lachrymologhy is a real theory though. to my knowledge no one has ever found a copy of the book and rather strangly the author (who passed all his knowledge onto Adam) has never been credited in any of Tools albums.

yeah Ive been with it for about 2 years
Lachrymology is a "buzz word" that tool invented for what had no name in the first place.
but the thing is Im not sure of this james/maynard split.....but interesting none the least
Take all the Magick that's been around since the dawn of time and compress it into one lesson and you get Tool.
A Tool to acquire gnosis
A Tool to complete the Great work
the grudge is a government document......the grudge report, it's part of project blue book.....it contains all the information the govt has about aliens......the grudge report also contains a theory that humans were created by a race of extraterrestrial beings whose home planet is a 10th planet in our solar system called niburu.......it has a huge elliptical orbit like a comet and comes around every 3,600 years......saturn also blocks it from telescopic view........saturn comes back around, shows you everything
yeah well.......in some areas the james/maynard thing kinda simplefy my lateralus interpretation
Saturn is a symbol assigned to a sephira on the Tree of Life
yeah
most major human evolutionary jumps ie: neolithic period etc.....happen every 3,600 years
representing the root of linearity thus time, matter, quantum locality
if saturn were to ascend, it would negate all time matter and locality and catapult one into a state of godliness
get my Lateralus key from the Magick folder
I dunno......where th egrudge like a crown.....seems to me ita abput having negative feeling and controlling stuff which slows down our mental evolution
yeah I have the key too
I have the grudge b/c I'm under saturn. i can ditch the grudge only when saturn ascends
have you listened along with the track times? that's when it becomes convincing to the uninitiated ear
?
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nvrmnd
yeah I have
and had this odd experiance of of it mid when I did
Lateralus follows the inverse lightning flash path of the Tree from here to "god"
kinda like it was tunning the chakras throught the movement of the album....
yeah
evolution can be tracked genetically from single celled organisms up to apes.......but not humans......thats the famous missing link......the missing link is not actually a MISSING link.....humans have ADDED cromosomes, ie: someone put them there.........humans also have 25,000 genetic defects......all other animals barely have any..........humans = cloned/manufactured species
try it on a fuckload of LSD.
(that's what I WISH i could do)
yeah but were not annuki bread I dont beleive that para
para*
You tell 'em parabolate
and as far as project bluebook....I dont really see it besides where the alchemey comes in,in the song
eh...lateralus is just as good sober as it is on lsd...cept for the colours..
yeah...reel
or humans could be where all of the excess entropy of the universe is getting dumped
havent triped in 3 years
after all, we're the ones allowing our weak to survive via our technology in the name of more consumers to consume so capitalism can thrive
yeah 'we barely remember who or what becames b/f....."
my last trip was last june on a camping trip..good fun..but i think ive had enough
"external merkaba"=technology
that what suposeliy happen to the greys...
i think i 'know' all i need to 'know' for now
they lost the use of thier "heart"
b/c of technology the same thing that happen to us......
lost it?.....or just never had it.......?
progress...its our nature...we just try and be better...to just 'be' would drive most crazy because they arent in tune with themselves
greys aren't real. they're a symbolic device used to illustrate concepts that are difficult to grasp otherwise
but a very interesting interpreation and I can honestly say I never thought abotu the james/maynard split...but I have always thought that about 3 libras
yeah para lost it...thats what I have read
they could not love anymore
rbj: you're describing the linear trend that underlies the expansion of the universe, qabalistically in saturn
have u read nothing in this book is true but it's exactly how things are?
yeah para
yup
frissel writes in smokescreens
heh
LOL* @mid
yikes...sounds interesting..i was just throwing my 2 cents in..im not very well read in this sort of thing...im more of a graphic design sorta guy
yeah I do believe the greys exsist....no I can apply to that to the term of GOD
the first step with me and Tool as far as the real deal goes was when I finally understood the 2nd "came out to watch you play..." in 3rd eye
it completes an analogy
hohoho!.....mid pm....
*is listening to 3rd eye atm
well, i have to say this is best tool discussion we've had in a while.
finally, something on topic
LOL
wheee
anyone have any early Tool shows, say around 1992 or 93?
theres lots of em on the hub...search for tool 93
i have JC Dobbs Club in 92
should get lots
all over the place strange
thanks man
o man..this new foo fighters album is really good
its got this seriousness to it that ive never heard...
from them
anyone been into the foos?
saw them with the RHCP a couple of years back.
not really....had friends that liked them though
yeah they opened up for chili peppers
here in Dayton
they played better than rhcp IMO
oohhh, has Tomahawk vid to d/l right now.
i like em...dave grohl is just full of way too much energy
and can scream like a motherfucker
if a motherfucker screams that is
real loud
anyone familiar with Superjoint Ritual?
yea
never heard of em
like em?
phils band
good
yep
damn good
I'm seeing them next Wednesday
Down > Superjoint
in columbus
yea, their great
extreme music
you have the DVD?
live dvd
nah, they sold out quick I am going to order it online next paycheck