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Wow, this is a very powerful campaign! Hopefully, it will help to save some lives (from _Девушка_Ночь_)

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self-made 30-05-2009-16:36 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, I'm gonna be your guru here too :) Meth or chrystal meth is a drug widely used among American teenagers, especially in rural areas. Some areas are really bad... I was told it is produced from some agricultural leftovers + some chemicals.
Actually, the firm I work for just stumbled upon this problem a few weeks ago: one of our properties for sale in Indiana was broken into and someone set up a meth lab there. The sheriff's office called us - they arrested a few people right on the spot. Appearantly, it's a huge problem out there in rural Indiana...
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-16:49 удалить
self-made, oh i see
i assume the actual word METH is like beginning of actual latin name of that chemical .....well strange someone just told me yesterday that she had to brake up with her bf coz she found out he was addict to meth
luckily she found out very soon
self-made 30-05-2009-17:19 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, yes, you are right, the full name is something metho.... I suppose it could be Googled :)
self-made 30-05-2009-17:25 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, here are interesting facts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine
And it does mention Indiana too "Until the early 1990s, methamphetamine for the US market was made mostly in labs run by drug traffickers in Mexico and California. Since then, authorities have discovered increasing numbers of small-scale methamphetamine labs all over the United States, mostly in rural, suburban, or low-income areas. Indiana state police found 1,260 labs in 2003, compared to just 6 in 1995, although this may be partly a result of increased police activity" I guess one of those small labs was in our house :)
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-17:30 удалить
self-made, oh its kind of double sided those adverts
one way it makes it more open to public that its dangerous
another way it actually makes people that never heard of it or didnt know discover something new that they can play with
well i have a very different way of thinking about those things
self-made 30-05-2009-18:16 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, I think that if you have never heard about it and see those adds, they won't make you wanna try it :) There's actually a big campaign against it going on right now. I also see a lot of similar ads on TV. I think that teenagers are so exposed to bad stuff that they have heard about it for sure and chances are they know someone who is using it. They just might not realize, how dangerous it is. And these posters are so graphic, they should make visual associations in their minds with the drug. Meth = all those scary posters. I could become like that if I use it.
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-18:20 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, I actually don't think that many people in thier right mid would want to play with something that might end like things shown on the pictures. But I agree that if this adds are run in the country where not many know about this drug, it can make some people look for this new drug. It seems, however, that everyone in the US already knows about its existence, but not everyone might know about the dangers of it. So the campaign will definitely do more good that bad...
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-18:21 удалить
self-made, yeah its totally true and its one side of the story
well i m not trying to argue at all
or proof someone wrong
i m just saying that each story has a bad and good in it
like media is actually trying to make a best of it but also in some way promoting some stuff that they have not tried yet
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-18:26 удалить
self-made, I've just wrote almost the same without even reading your last comment :)
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-18:27 удалить
MiaGellar, well anyone knows it
and no one would ever set a goal such "well today i will start becoming a drag addict and kill myself and make myself a miserable nut"
but many many many do
as for those countries that media is not that open talking about it .......there is much less addicts
unfortunately all those who start drags always think that that happens to "those" but i know myself i can stop and i can just try and i know i will be able to stop when i want and so on
and end up just there as the rest of them
anyway i m not trying to argue it
i m saying that it has as good as bad influence to people
same like in russia they are trying to film lots of documentaries about alcohol and how it is bad after advertising it for years and years and selling it to kids
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-18:28 удалить
Исходное сообщение MiaGellar
self-made, I've just wrote almost the same without even reading your last comment :)



axa
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-18:29 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, you're right about many good intentions having unwanted results...if I'm not mistaken in sociology it's called manifest and latent functions
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-18:33 удалить
Исходное сообщение MiaGellar
Elena_Prikhodko, you're right about many good intentions having unwanted results...if I'm not mistaken in sociology it's called manifest and latent functions


well i m not sure about the term especially in english:)
but yeah it could be it
self-made 30-05-2009-18:54 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, I agree with you about the media. In this case I do think, like MiaGellar said, that this campaign will do more good than bad. But when it comes to other things like, say, pedofiles for example, I think too much attention is given to it by the media, so people, who wouldn't even think of a possibility of sexually harrasing a child might consider doing it. Obviously, those people would have some predisposition to doing that, but maybe they would have never thought of acting on it, but when they see all those pictures in the media and hear all the stories it makes them think of trying it. I also disagree with showing too much open violence on TV, including in movies. People, who are predisposed to these mental conditions, might get triggered by seeing all that and start acting on it.
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-19:02 удалить
self-made, well thats exactly where i was going to with my comments
russian tv is even worst in that
crazy stuff is there
better not to watch it ever
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-19:02 удалить
self-made, I agree with what you say about pedophilia and violence. The reason why giving too much attention to them might be different is that Meth = harm to yourself, while pedophilia, for example, = harm to somebody else (unless one gets caught). While nobody want to end up like people on the pictures, which is guaranteed, some will consider doing the other because they'll think that it is possible to get away with it...
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-19:05 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, Violence shown on Russian TV is definitely worse...I think that it's much more realistic than violence in American action movies and, thus, more disturbing...
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-19:15 удалить
Исходное сообщение MiaGellar
Elena_Prikhodko, Violence shown on Russian TV is definitely worse...I think that it's much more realistic than violence in American action movies and, thus, more disturbing...


and all those traditions of drinking and any wedding has to have at least one fight and all that pretty much stupid common thing
really scares me
i wouldnt want my child to be brought up here ; not that i have one but....well if i have or when i have
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-19:19 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, yeah, all this crap that Russians like to pull off sometimes makes it difficult to be a real patriot!
self-made 30-05-2009-19:36 удалить
Elena_Prikhodko, MiaGellar, I don't know if Russian TV is worse. I think American shows can be really graphic too. Like CSI and other similar ones.
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-19:47 удалить
self-made, I'm talking not so much about content but more about the way Russian and US shows are filmed. I have always had feeling that I was looking at some kind of documentary when I watched Russian series. If I'm not mistaken, it has to do with the number of cameras the scene is shot with or something like that. The lower the budget, the more "unmovielike" or "documentarylike" the show is. There can be even more violence in American series and movies, but, because of the way they are filmed, this violence seems less realistic to me...
Elena_Prikhodko 30-05-2009-20:07 удалить
Исходное сообщение self-made
Elena_Prikhodko, MiaGellar, I don't know if Russian TV is worse. I think American shows can be really graphic too. Like CSI and other similar ones.


well if you really look closely you can find stupid /violent stuff in both
self-made 30-05-2009-20:12 удалить
MiaGellar, oh I see what you mean. But I think that Hollywood actually overidealizes violence, makes it look even romantic or at least picture-perfect so it doens't seem as scary anymore, but rather exciting. Whereas Russian lower budget shows are more realistic and therefore they actually have the opposite effect - the violence is them is real and most people are scared by it rather than captivated.
CrimeanGurl 30-05-2009-20:22 удалить
self-made, I agree. It's true that overidealized violence makes it more compelling for some people to pick up a gun and try to play some kind of Robin Hood or villain...So, while American shows and movies might be less disturbing to watch, they could do more damage because of it...
self-made 30-05-2009-21:52 удалить
MiaGellar, also remembered something I disagree with. All these shcool shootings seem to portrait the shooters in an idialized way I think. They become so famouse for doing it. They get on the front pages of the newspapers and on every news channel... I guess it is big news and people need to know about it, but sometimes it seems to me that the media almost makes celebrities out of those shooters...


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